Terminators – where do they come from?

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Terminators – where do they come from?

I came back home very tired and just left my gear on the floor. Never mind, I’ll clean it up later. Or maybe tomorrow. Quick shower, coffee, warm slipper, computer. Damn, I had a lot of fun today, a lot of awesome airsofting. Cool people, many hits. And there were two nice girls with cameras taking a lot of pictures, I hope all photos are online already. Yes! I want to see myself bringing the wrath of God upon my enemies as I operate with my faithful Specna. I can’t wait! Let’s check the forum. Oh, I can see new posts in the topic of today’s event. Let’s see…

 

“Cool event!”

“Where are pictures?”

“Yeah it was cool but the opposite team was full of cheaters”

“Yep, a lot of terminators there”

“No way, no one was cheating. I lost my cap, has anyone seen it?”

“Outrageous! Second team was cheating all the time! Ref, do something about it!”

“Yes, publish all photos of cheaters here”

“Fatty in woodland was the worst of all, damn cheater!’

 

Damn! I thought I’ve been there but apparently it was some different event! What’s the cause of such drastically different perception? Why are they writing about cheaters but I’ve never seen any? And no one accused me of cheating. No one was arguing or fighting. So what the hell?

I don’t know if it’s just me, but I think there’s a lot of complaining about cheaters in our community lately. Like, A LOT! Of course, that’s the problem connected with airsoft and there were cheaters since the very beginning. But in most cases you just ignored them plus I think there weren’t as many of them as there are today.

And of course I can’t believe that only one team was full of cheaters while the other one was crystal-clear, as it usually appears in the discussions on airsoft forums. So once again – what the hell? What is it with cheaters and accusations there days?

I believe that’s a result of numerous different causes. And I believe that’s got something to do with new generation of airsofters, raised on may myths and stereotypes.

Source: Internet 😉

So what’s the cause?

First of all, people invest a lot if their ego in replicas. They can’t simply accept the fact that replica won’t shoot the distance they believe it can, that BB cannot penetrate the bush they think it should. They invested a lot of money, time and effort in their replicas that they can’t see any flaws, sometimes they even glorify their guns. Up to the point where they believe that it should be enough for them to just aim at someone and that guy should raise his hand and call hit even before they had a chance to shoot him. Quite often they play on the edge of range thinking that their replica can overcome the rules of physics. They want to be airsoft predators and they don’t accept the fact their replica simply can’t shoot that far. So they end up full of accusations. Of course the other side won’t call their hits (cause there weren’t any) and we’ve got conflict ready.

Second thing (connected with the first reason) – a lot of airsoft replicas are really, really lousy. All the time I can see replicas so inaccurate, so badly done that it’s hard to shoot them even at most basic range. Usually it’s the owner who put all the parts together, sometimes with a little help of friend who is car mechanic so “he knows how to do it”. Ask experienced airsoft tech or send it to professional airsoft technical department? Bitch please, I can do it on my own! And later we can see such guy standing 30 meter away and spraying in our general directions, but all BBs are flying nowhere near us. And we can see it very clearly, because in such occasions time usually slows down a little 😉 And then we can hear him screaming that he couldn’t have missed and we should call our hits and stop cheating. He is 100% sure of that, because he’s got 500 FPS that he measured using old Pepsi can.

Third thing – wrong use of red dot sights. It is very simple. I don’t believe that using cheap Chinese red dot with reticle size of the grown man you saw your opponent, dressed in green camo, standing 70 meters from you, being hit by 6mm BB. No way man. Red dot sights are awesome on limited range, period. Ever since I use new scope my perspective has changed. A lot of times I’ve seen very clearly my BB almost hitting a guy, but falling down just before reaching him. Or hitting some small branch and loosing the speed all of the sudden. If I looked through simple red dot I would be 100% sure that I’ve hit the target and the other guy is simply cheating!

Fourth thing – people generally don’t want to settle such disagreements on the spot. Few years back it used to be very common to simply approach the other guy and tell him he’s been hit. And it was quite normal to raise your hand, put red rag on your head and go to respawn. To trust the other side – if they saw us getting hit then maybe they are right and we just didn’t feel it? Maybe the BB hit the vest? Maybe I have a lot of equipment on me and the shot wasn’t powerful enough to be felt? Now it’s completely different. Most common technique is just shooting again, possibly aiming to the hear – that will teach that damn cheater! Maybe instead we should just tell the other guy he’s been hit? Maybe he wasn’t aware of that? Right now people don’t want to talk to each other, they simply avoid such contacts. It’s better for them to go back home and raise some hell on the forum, “damn cheaters hurr durr!” Situations where two people simply talk about such situations, settle their disagreements, apologize and admit they were wrong are now harder to find. Shame.

And the last one – it’s easier to whine on the forum about “bad cheaters from the other team” than admit that you’ve had your ass handed to you. And they simply destroyed you.

That’s how I see it. I myself try not to worry too much. I treat every player the same way, give them some trust and it helps me have fun. Because that is the point of airsoft – have a good time with your friends. Do you really think that on even with 100 players all cheaters are “in the other team”?

5 Comments

  1. luglo says:

    Bywa też tak, że repliki wyciągnięte z pudła i osiągające okolice 400f/s nie nadają dostatecznej prędkości kulce aby trafienie nią w ubranie było odczuwalne na dystansie powyżej 40m. Dotyczy to głównie sytuacji gdy trwa wir walki, cel przemieszcza się lub pojawi się jakiś hałas, który zagłusza dźwięk trafienia. Oczywiście nie dotyczy to trafień w nieosłonięte części ciała, bo wtedy nie ma wątpliwości.

  2. BuraczanyPablo says:

    Co Ty gadasz, widziałem z 60metrow, że koleś dostał, że odbiła się kulka! Jestem pewien, że moja repla jest najlepsza, pozdrawiam :p

  3. Olo says:

    Często dochodzi do terminatorki wśród młodych gniewnych cwaniaczków, którym po prostu nie chce się opuszczać drużyny i iść na respa; nie chcą się czołgać i skradać, poruszać od zasłony do zasłony, a jak już oberwą w pusty łeb (w głowę się nie celuje ale po 3x to jedyny sposób na terminatora) aż ich wykręca to jeszcze mówią skąd padły strzały.. Z takimi “graczami” ten sport umrze niedługo – celowo nie wspominam już o snajperach którzy mają baardzo utrudnione zadanie..
    Co do cqb to sytuacja w której przeciwnik zostaje zaskoczony, odpowiada ogniem a potem się wykłóca że “ok, na respa schodzimy razem” to już niestety standard:(
    Poza tym jak można wyjaśnić na miejscu terminatorkę skoro w okolicy trwa jeszcze akcja i jest inny przeciwnik – co mam powiedzić “pauza” wyjaśnić temat, wrócić na miejsce i grać nadal??

    Liczę na to aby airsoft podrożał(sam nie wierzę że to piszę) na tyle aby plebsowi ograniczyć dostęp, bo bieganie z go pro na czaszce mija się z celem.
    Celowo piszę plebs bo asg to gra gentlemanów i jej zasady opierają się na postawie honorowej.
    Chciałbym też aby leader teamu był trochę jak sędzia i pilnował zasad na “swoim podwórku”, co do reszty to każdy gracz raczej zna skuteczny zasięg repliki i bierze pod uwagę warunki atmosferyczne czy np jakość kulek z jakich strzela.

    pozdrawiam i do zobaczenia na polu walki 😉

    • Michał "Crybaby" Kępa says:

      Łopanie… Ja akurat byłem na strzelance, ale wiem przynajmniej jak się zachować!! Sandał….Skandal znaczy.
      A co do droższego airsoftu to niestety ale to byłoby zgubne dla całego środowiska bo graczy by nie przybywało a ubywało ze względu na koszty eksploatacji.
      Pozdrawiam 😀

  4. marcin says:

    Wydaje mi się ze kwestia ,,Terminatorów” nie ogranicza się do jakiegoś przedziału wiekowego. Często zdarza się ,że osoby koło 30stki 40stki wydają 5x tyle kasy co młodzi, wyrwą się z domu raz w miesiącu i po zaliczeniu zgonu nie chce im się iść na respa bo jak to możliwe ze jakiś łepek ich odstrzelił swoją chińską repliką w stocku. Z drugiej strony nie można się zbytnio spinać na takich sytuacjach. Dostał nie przyznał się – podchodzę bliżej tak żeby nie miał ktoś pola do dyskusji. Ewentualnie zamontowanie najtańszej kamery, ba nawet obudowy do kamery potrafi zdziałać cuda. Ale należy pamiętać o własnych ograniczeniach tzn. kiedy nie widzę charakterystycznego grymasu na twarzy przeciwnika po trafieniu zakładam ze nie poczuł, nie usłyszał trafienia. Nie zakładam że jest terminatorem.

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